Norwood 4: the stage, and what patients at this stage had done
What Norwood 4 means
Frontal recession deepens and the crown thins clearly, but a solid band of hair still separates the two areas.
Patients who were Norwood 4 before surgery
In the reddit threads we have read for our directory, 33 people who had a hair transplant described themselves as Norwood 4 beforehand; 22 of them posted photos. Another 25 people gave Norwood 4 while still planning or considering surgery; they are not counted below.
Grafts they report
27 people stated a graft count. The median is 4,200 grafts; the middle half had between 3,209 and 5,000.
- 2,500–2,999 1
- 3,000–3,499 7
- 3,500–3,999 4
- 4,000–4,499 4
- 4,500–4,999 4
- 5,000–5,499 4
- 5,500–5,999 2
- 6,000–6,499 0
- 6,500–6,999 0
- 7,000–7,499 0
- 7,500–7,999 0
- 8,000–8,499 1
Technique they named: FUE (12), FUT (3), DHI (2), other (1).
See what 4,200 grafts costs per country →Doctors these patients named
How many of these Norwood 4 patients named each listed doctor. A count of who posted, not a measure of quality.
- Koray Erdogan 5
- Gokhan Gür 4
- Ratchathorn Panchaprateep 3
- Kaan Pekiner 2
- Kongkiat Laorwong 2
- Alok Kumar Sahoo 1
- Bekir Bek 1
- Blake Bloxham 1
- Christopher Pawlinga 1
- Dogan Turan 1
- Erkam Caymaz 1
- H. Rahal 1
…and 9 more doctors in the directory.
In their own words
“I was nw4/5 and I have an insanely good result.”
With Gokhan Gür. Norwood 5/6 opinions please! (reddit, Sept 2024)“I ended up with a total of 3940 grafts.”
With Ratchathorn Panchaprateep, 3,940 grafts. 4.5 Months Progress Photos Absolute Hair Clinic Dr. Ratchathorn (reddit, Jan 2026), with photos“I just had Dr. Cortez do 3200 on mine a little over a week ago.”
With Jorge Cortez, 3,200 grafts. Looking to go to Dr.Cortez HMR TJ Mexico (reddit, Nov 2025), with photos“received 2915 grafts in zones 1,2,3 and partially 4.”
With Kaan Pekiner, 2,915 grafts. American Vs. Turkish Post Op Comparison (reddit, Jul 2025), with photos“they said it was 3192 grafts, so, almost 200 more than I paid for.”
With Vladimir Panine, 3,192 grafts. 3000 Graft FUE - Dr Vlad Panine in Chicago, Day 2 (reddit, Sept 2024), with photos
How to read these numbers
These are people who chose to post on reddit and named their doctor, not a clinical study. The stage is their own description, not an assessment by us or by a doctor, and graft counts are what they wrote. A person counts once at a stage, however many updates they posted. Removed threads are left out of the quotes. A surgeon's assessment of your own scalp comes first.
More: all Norwood stages, the hair transplant cost calculator, and recovery month by month as patients report it.
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